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Originally Posted by analogbass  If i know more than you as you say, it's because i lived thru it and also paid attention. Pay attention instead of only trying to give lectures about what you know. The 909, 808 and a ton of other Japanese drum machines came about as the result of the underground club, hip-hop and rap scenes here in NY in the early 80s that you're not even aware of apparently. |
Huh !?
Are you drunk ?
Lets get one thing straight here......you really don´t have a clue. I´ll give you a hint :
Keio
It started with the Doncamatic and if you don´t know what that is let me tell you about something called Google.
To say that the 909, 808 and all the other Jap boxes was made out of request from the NYC scene early to mid 80´s is plain wrong.
Example :
Roland CR-78. Releasedate sometime 1978. This box ( which incidently was the follow up to the CR-68 ) made the 808 possible.
The 808´s birth had nothing to do with the NYC scene. It was just the logical thing to do since the CR-78 offered limited memory and even cheasier sounds than the 808.
The 909 was more of the same but now with a few samples, namely the cymbals which is hard to produce convincingly with analog circuits. Still, I have to admit it is strange that not all sounds where sampled, but I guess it had to do with not exceeding the target pricepoint.
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Originally Posted by analogbass Those musics primarily/initially transitioned from live drumming in the early 80s to Linns and Oberheims along with a smattering of Rolands and other companies, for the reasons i've already mentioned. Those other brands weren't as desirable. Just go back and listen to records from the early-mid 80s. The main Roland was the 808, which got huge promo from seminal hip-hop records like Planet Rock. That type of early NYC hip-hop was also the foundation of techno BTW.
Only later in the mid-80s when the music spread to Chicago, Detroit and then overseas under new names like house and techno did the musical aesthetic change, with cheesy equipment coming into vogue. It happened because the amateurs making much of the music couldn't afford better & weren't particularly good programmers, not because they liked the sound of the equipment better.
Now you have context you didn't have before, when you thought "it all started with the 909" when it didn't at all. Now you get it LOL |
Thanks for the historylesson......
WT