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Originally Posted by chrisso  See man.
It's hard to engage you in a decent discussion because you think you are so right.
'Cheesy' and 'better' are so subjective, and yet you patronise people you know nothing about.
I was working at the coalface in the music industry in the late 70's and thru the 80's.
David Morley is a highly respected electronic musician who has releases to his name and owns a vast and diverse collection of equipment.
I know you're going to say "so what", but I'm just trying to say........I'm totally willing to accept you have more knowledge than me, I'm willing to accept you have more experience than me, have a different opinion to me.
When I type an entry into this forum that is based on personal experience, I don't accept being told I'm wrong, or that I've made an 'error'. It's just bad manners basically (not to mention bullying).
I'm fully able to accept a genuine disagreement however.
'Cheesy' Roland drumsounds?........
Well Kraftwerk have employed them all and to brilliant effect.
Their recordings are powerfiul, funky and they were at the vanguard of electronic-style drum tracks. So I disagree that many Roland machines sound cheesy and weak.
The whole techno, house, dance genre is based on the 909.
Those records also sound powerful to me.
I disagree that the 808 sounds better than other Rolands. what about the 909?
If you don't like the 909 sound it would be a personal opinion, not analogbass gospel that the rest of Gearslutz have to adhere to.
What 'better' sounds were available in the 60's by the way?
Accept a few different opinions and do me a favour, drop all the condescending asides about other members being 'trolls' or 'too much man'.
Friendly advice. |
If i know more than you as you say, it's because i lived thru it and also paid attention. Pay attention instead of only trying to give lectures about what you know. The 909, 808 and a ton of other Japanese drum machines came about as the result of the underground club, hip-hop and rap scenes here in NY in the early 80s that you're not even aware of apparently. Those musics primarily/initially transitioned from live drumming in the early 80s to Linns and Oberheims along with a smattering of Rolands and other companies, for the reasons i've already mentioned. Those other brands weren't as desirable. Just go back and listen to records from the early-mid 80s. The main Roland was the 808, which got huge promo from seminal hip-hop records like Planet Rock. That type of early NYC hip-hop was also the foundation of techno BTW.
Only later in the mid-80s when the music spread to Chicago, Detroit and then overseas under new names like house and techno did the musical aesthetic change, with cheesy equipment coming into vogue.
It happened because the amateurs making much of the music couldn't afford better & weren't particularly good programmers, not because they liked the sound of the equipment better. Now you have context you didn't have before, when you thought "it all started with the 909" when it didn't at all. Now you get it LOL