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Old 21st March 2007, 01:30 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by charles maynes View Post
Good point- however this is not really catering to composer and music editors pre-se- more to post mixers (NOT music mixers) and editors.
And I would say that the "stem" term seems to have really started catching on with the idea of doing subgoups out of ProTools to summing mixers-
On Music stages (doing film music at least), In my experience pre-mix is a more common term.

But alas, that is why we are talking about it-

I would like to think that we are again talking about this not to the purpose of everyone defending their use of a term, but rather so anyone working in the field will be sure of what a term is describing.
I'm coming quite late to the party, but music is, of course, always essentially "pre-mixed" by the scoring mixer before being delivered to the dub stage, which in itself can be one source of communication confusion. Sometimes it's a full mix (stereo or surround), and sometimes it's broken down into elements (percussion, leads, strings...). When it's broken into elements, on the scoring stage they will often just be called stems for short, but on the dub stage I've always refered to them as pre-mix stems, to differentiate from mix stems on the stage (Dia/FX/Mus), or just a full mix of the music that is not split out by the scoring mixer.

In the interest of terms that are most descriptive and useful for all, as Charles is asking for above, it seems to me that pre-mix stems for the musical situation in question leaves the least room for confusion. Then again, it could be a mental affliction I'm suffering from...
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