Gearslutz.com - View Single Post - Logic 8 ? *merged*
View Single Post
Old 1st March 2007   #230
joris de man
Lives for gear
 
joris de man's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Location: Amsterdam - now Steyning, UK
Posts: 571

Quote:
Originally Posted by steff3 View Post
I think there is clearly a difference between the principle in the Logic snapshop and the Nuendo one - in the Logic you can easily assign a velocity curve to each key - in Nuendo that would ge difficult (or simply - is not possible) There are tons of other stuff - the transformers are quite cute in Cubase/Nuendo - but no where as easy to handle (I always find the workflow to set up a transformer in Cubase pretty weird) and nowhere as flexible as the environment. You can believe it or not.
If you want flexibility - no other DAW can touch Logic - and that is due to the environment. But Maybe Steinberg goes on with copying Logic (the interface and stuff with Cubase4) and Cubase 5 will have an environment and the hobby musicians at Apple have thrown it away ....

best
Sigh...
Yes, there is difference; however, I was responding to a specific example of which the author couldn't imagine it being done any other way.
In my reply to him I showed that there was an alternative which also didn't require 40 odd seperate transformers.
As stated in my previous post I wasn't suggesting at all that a simple input transformer could replace the environment window of Logic; my point simply was that there are a number of things that don't necessarily need the complexity of the environment window, and can be done just as well with one simple input transformer, as per my example.
Is the environment a powerful feature that can do some amazing things? Most certainly.
Do certain everyday "set and forget" tasks require the environment; well, that is disputable.

Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to reply without getting into a DAW pissing match, which is quite boring really.
As to the Cubase4 copying Logic's interface; a bit rich really considering where the original logic got its interface ideas from when it was released 4-5 years after the original Cubase in 1993(then called Cubit). Suprisingly, Logic sported a rather similar interface

Anyway, as I also mentioned, I used Logic for a great number of years and wouldn't dispute its flexibillity. That having been said, I also found it at times an incredibly frustrating program to deal with, and the environment was a big part of that; personally I found it a bit of a mixed blessing.

But hey, if it works for you that's great. I'm not telling you to switch.
Just stop the 'mine is better than yours' bollocks. They're all great Daws. All of them have their pros and cons...

Best,

Joe
joris de man is offline   Reply With Quote