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Old 27th February 2007   #210
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Originally Posted by jetplane666666 View Post
There are better ways? For example? Logic implements signal flow and representation of devices in the simplest way possible, with graphic icons and cables. Logic also goes a step further and let's you manipulate this flow with complex signal processors (transformer) and intelligent signal routing tools (transformer/splitter, etc). Cycling 74 Max/MSP use the same icon/cable methodology. How else would you do it?

I have an extremely complex (midi) environment to manage my large midi composing studio. Other programs like Pro Tools simply lack the sophistication to manage my setup. Let's take a simple real world example; short of patching Max/MSP as a front end how would you achieve the keyboard velocity scaling I describe in my post above?
Well, Nuendo/Cubase handles this in one of two ways; it has a midi transformer on the midi input of a midichannel that can be set either globally or locally, in which you can scale the velocity.
The other way is that it supports midi plugins which can be set per channel, on which you can also use a velocity scaler.

I was a long time logic user on the mac (since 2.5) but switched to a PC with Nuendo when it went to os X. I was surprised that for many things that logic does there are good alternatives (or at least alternatives that worked for me). Like you, I'm a pretty advanced midi user (I once even created an environment in Logic to do random keyswitching of multiple samples with the EXS, which unfortunately exposed a nasty environment bug), but many things don't necesarrily have to be modular in order to work.
Your velocity example is really a kind of set and forget thing, that I imagine once setup you don't need to change too often.
My point is that the enviromnent is probably not as unmissable as you might think...

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