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Old 18th February 2007   #162
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Originally Posted by synthdogg View Post
I just don't think I'll ever get when people get so emotionally invested in their software. It's as if the tools have become more important than the music.
I can understand it to a degree. The thing to keep in mind is that it's not just "software" as a whole that the folks in this thread are getting excited about. I don't think any of the people who have expressed extreme love/hate about Logic feel the same passion about iCal, or Outlook, or Graphic Calculator, for example.

It's gotten to the point that the DAW has become an instrument in itself. And musicians have always been passionate about their instruments.

Perhaps the biggest difference between a DAW and a musical instrument is that if you want the sound/build of another guitar, you can buy it and add it to your collection with minimal learning curve and complete transfer of your current guitar playing ability. To continue with this analogy, if your guitar of choice is a Les Paul, if you decide you want the tremolo and pickup configuration of a Stratocaster for a song or two, there will be a bit of a learning curve for the longer string scale, neck shape, and tremolo technique, but overall you'll find that your previously written songs should translate fairly well, and you are still about as facile as you were on your Les Paul.

If you want the feature in another DAW, switching DAWs is a far more complicated procedure than simply buying another guitar. New operating paradigms, new key commands, new interface, lack of song compatibility, and so on. So while the guitarist may see no need to put a tremolo on his Les Paul and just buy a Stratocaster, the Logic user feels much that he'd be better served by Apple adding a tremolo bar to Logic instead of buying Pro Tools for it's tremolo bar if you catch my drift.

That said, in my line of work, I deal with a lot of professionals, and they do tend to have the guitarist's attitude. One of my good acquaintances is a top UK alternative rock producer/engineer who loves Logic and uses it for everything. However, when he needs beat detective in his work, rather than posting all over the Internet how Logic sucks because it doesn't have beat detective and if Logic 7, 8, 9, 10, or whatever doesn't add it he's going to leave it forever, he just loads up Pro Tools, uses beat detective, bounces the result, reimports it to Logic, and calls it a day. Just like a guitarist who loves his Les Paul, but pulls out the strat when he needs it.

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I'm sure when Logic 8 arrives, it will be great and have some features that I find useful. But hey....that's the future, and right now I'm getting things done (well) with Logic 7. If it wasn't working for me, I would move to a platform that did work for me.
I'm sorry, that attitude is far too reasonable. You will be fined.

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