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Old 29th January 2007   #144
lucey
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Huh? Never been called pious before. You sure you know what it means? I'm glad you've found my past pious words, um.... exciting. I really don't think you know what pious means.
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I'm not sure what you do for a living Brian. I tried to check out some of your work but I could only find a handfull of credits spread out over a handfull of years, so I'm assuming you're an avid hobbyist or a beginner.

Apparently you need a lot of attention or maybe you're upset that no one asks you for your opinion - you seem to have a compulsion to force it on people. Whatever the case, you'd probably be treated with more respect if you treated your "peers" with respect. I get the feeling this forum is important to you. Don't get yourself kicked off this one too.

If you feel like you get attacked a lot here you might consider your own conduct. If it happens often you must consider the possibility that it might actually be you and not everyone else that is the problem.
If we're giving unsolicited advice, I wish you'd go back to the nicer guy you were for the first few weeks last year when you arrived.

I respect character, not credits. For example I was kind and open to you at one point, and you betrayed that trust for quick power the first chance you had. You're also one of those politicos who insults people online but wont respond to PM. Jack/Punisher is the same way ... totally happy to insult online, but wont PM to keep the board clean. So to me you're only a ME with credits, nothing more. And you can't take em with you! Add to that I've never knowingly heard any of your records or heard of you before this board ... and even if I had, what would it mean? Character makes it, not credits. I assume you're totally capable as you work at Sterling so please take no offense, but you're a nobody to me just as much as I'm a nobody to you.

Let's clarify what I do for a living ... around 70% is made in the mastering studio (or consulting with mixers at their studios), if you must insult and pry. My wife and I also record a few records per year using a tricked out 2" rig that we own mostly for ourselves. We're both musicians who like great tone and put the emphasis on artists and the front end, not the engineering. She does the tracking and I mix. If you want to hear any mastering or mixing I've done, just PM or call. We also trade our own stocks a few hours per week, and I spend a few hours per week at my family's interior design firm working with the family just as all of my siblings do. My wife also designs clothes that sell retail and at music festivals nationwide. She's had work on the cover of Rolling Stone and Time, but never made a dime from it as the NYC firms ripped off her original designs. Actually a lot of her work has been ripped off by corporate firms, that's fashion for you. We're both artists in business, not looking to take over the world with impressive credits, or to make huge money in anything. We honor necessity and sufficiency, respecting truth and beauty. Not politics, image or power.

I've always resisted relying on the music business for main income, partly for the reasons that a thread like this makes clear ... it's full of some unhealthy people with power agendas in a field that I hold in high regard. But over time, you do something well and you love it, then you do it more and more.


As for credits ... seemingly your one way of judging: My mastering credits are mostly with up and comers from all over the world, some are local, most are not. My work is a balance of quality and valule that works for the people I like to work with and who like to work with me. Some artists are on small labels or often on no label. Certainly the major label music is no better than much of what I'm blessed to master, so nothing to be ashamed of there. And as a result, not a lot of credits to point someone like yourself to. I did work for a number of major label artists' last year, a multiple Grammy winner last month, and one gold record producer comes by when he's on a budget. If you really want to know these clients and are not just being insulting for your own aims, you can call me for more details. The number is on my website. I wouldn't want to name drop oterwise, as I'd get shit for that and rightly so.

Coming up as an artist I made a living in NYC at 19 as a rock guitarist and singer, then studied music with an international school. I used to think that top level mastering was far too expensive and that mid level mastering was either too conservative or not co-creative enough. My business exists now to be the mastering that wasn't available to me then. My goal is to get people a great mastering job for a very reasonable price, and it grows every year. I surely dont need this board, and didn't ask to be attacked or misunderstood in this thread. My point was that Mellers mastering was overvalued in this case.

Do you disagree that the music and the mixing are far more important than the mastering in the case of a good mix?


As for this board in general, sadly it's less enjoyable in the last 6 months as the posturing from many has become part of the landscape so common to other web boards. At first you were friendly and cool for example, then you got into the power of it all. It's unfortunate how much ass kissing and posturing goes on. I'm all about music myself. It's simple really. My passion for music is greater than my passion to look good to everyone or to impress everyone, etc. I'm not here to make friends and influence people, just to share and compare towards the aim of better music with whomever happens along.

You have no basis to give me tips on behaviour or to judge anything I do here, as your contributions to this board have been more negative than positive in my view. You are of course free to post anything you can get away with, but I wish that you (as well as a few other supposedly more experienced people) would posture less and share more. That would take both courage and compassion, and since I dont know you in reality, I'm not sure what's possible there. In my world experience is who you are, not the artists you've worked with. So far I'm not getting a lot of positive from you, and I see a few others feeling the same way on occasion. But you have friends, and power, so I guess you want to play it like that.


All the best
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