Cheers Nathan, your ramblings are really helping man - nice one.
Ok so what you are saying is the 414 are cool for piano and overheads because they give a great flat detailed sound? I dont need ultra detail as you said because it is a big rock wet drum sound im after - not something to precise here. (however good separation of the stereo image is important to gain that large stereo impression).
So you wreckon the 414 would not be that good for lead vocal then? I could stretch my budget to a pair of C414 and then get a AT4033 for the vocal if you think that would be cool?
Now i know there is a alot of C414 and the one you suggested which one is that?
Is it this one i found on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AKG-C414BXLS-S...QQcmdZViewItem
Cheers for all the help and the detailed descriptions the better descriptions i get the better choice il make because there are not a whole lot of places i can get my hands on these mics here in the south tip of ireland without ordering them first from a main shop in the UK or ebay!!!! Its kinda a get and hope for the best but im not doing to bad so far just need to sort out this mic selection and the vocals and piano and i should be good to rock!!!!!!
Nice one