Hi all,
I have posted this message below in the drums forum and a chap there called chrisso suggested to post it in this room to give it a little more attention. I hope you dont think this is spamming to much because I would genuinely love some of your opinions on my setup right now for drums.
I only found gearslutz about 1 month ago now and I have a few questions about recording my band here in Ireland. Basically I'm looking for a set of overhead mics that I can use on my drumkit and also maybe use on a few other things in our band. There are not a whole lot of large drum shops and studio in the south tip of the country of ireland so this forum seems like the best place to get some real good advice. I hope you guys can help me out because I would love toget my kit sounding great.
Ok so here is the gear I have so far.
First thing I suppose is the kit itself. This is a large sounding DW collectors. 24"x18" kick 13"x11" rack, 16"x16" floor tom and Black beauty 14"x6 1/2" snare. All have new skins but I am experimenting here aswell with the skins. I have 4 cymbals, all large with a 22" paragon ride being the biggest and large 18inch crash Z cymbal that I would ride on and get a thrashy sound alot. The kit sounds really great and full with a big wet kinda sound to it. I want to capture this sound which isnt far from the sound of Wolfmother and that 70ties kit he has. I will try leaving the hoops on the toms with holes cut in the toms (on the bottom side obviously) if necessary to get that big retro sound. basically its a natural real sound I want to capture up front and not have to replace much or anything like that. obviously I know il have to compress the hell out of it and all that kinda stuff after but its to get that great real sound and give the kit its justice.
I know the room matters too - I have got a room that is all wood with carpetting floors. 14 feet by 12 feet with a 10 foot ceiling so it sounds pretty cool. not the best room in the world but not the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. I have a D112 for the kick and a SM57 for the beater side. (maybe might get the subkick)
2. I have a MD421 for both the rack and floor toms.
3. I have a SM57 for the snare (Still looking for a bottom snare mic, any suggestions really appreciated)
4. Now for the overheads I am thinking the following:
Pair of AT4050's (could use one as a vocal mic because i was told they are as good as the AT4033 which is quite nice I think, also could they be used to mic an upright piano)
Pair Audio Technica ATM450?
Pair Neumann KM184?
Pair Rode NT5?
Now I know the Nuemanns are the most expensive here but are they really better?
I am leaning towards the AT4050's cause i think they could be the best??
Anything else you guys would get instead of these and which is the best of this bunch.
All the mics will be plugged into a CLM dynamics DB8000 preamp with 8 channels which sounds nice kinda like the Focusrite 410 preamp but with 8 channels. I have the adat card for it so I have 16 inputs if I need it on my digi 002 rack system.
I would really appreciate it if you guys out there in great studios and years of experience could guide me a little towards the few great mics I need to allow me to capture my DW kit. Any help would be like gold to me!!! I have self thought myself from day one with my drums and with my recording gear so I am a quick learner so even if you have tricky tips to try out hit me with them because I love to experiment aswell (thats where the fun is
I would like to get a pair of overheads that I can use on an upright piano aswell and also maybe use on a guitar combo valve amp.
Il send you guys on a few pics of the setup I have here in Ireland soon - gotta get the digital camera out first!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks a million,
James