[Lindell]

OK,
My intention with the original post was just to show you a pre&post mastering example, where Vlado happened to be the engineer. Not to start a kindergarden shit throwing contest.
I as a customer, is very satisfied with the result and that's what pretty much counts here. Personal preferences is another thing.

Originally Posted by aivoryuk

I thought it was a good production to start with.....
i like it

Thank you!

Originally Posted by AMIEL

I love the song, great guitar and awesome singer!!!Great job Lindell!

Thanks man!

Originally Posted by lucey

The mix and the music are the big accomplishment here. Meller is good but you're giving him too much credit for having a unique sound or talent. And that master is not smashed much by the standard of say, Audioslave.


I know it's a fun treat to pay for famous names, yet for $80 I'd have sent you these (at nearly the same level - to make comparison easy)

from your mp3 - a
from your mp3 - b
from your mp3 - c kick and meat up

To me there's a $415 difference between yours and Vlados master..... Vlado's has better transients, it's 'tighter', more balanced, has a better/nicer top end, more controlled bass, etc. I know you did your thing from my MP3 which isn't fair, but you choosed yourself to post these examples made from an MP3.

If y'all want to do a "mastering competition", I could give y'all a wave file. But that's for another thread and time.

Originally Posted by punisher

Sorry but no balls here by Brian. It's just pure audacity.
You yourself acknowledge that Vlado's version is better.
People are elavated to greatness not dragged up by being shouted at.
I think Brian could have conducted his experiment via different means
When it comes to good and great between Vlado and Brian we're not talking a fine line but the grand canyon.
My behaviour might be questionable here as well but if someone is going to stick his chin out he can expect to get it pulverised.

yupp

Originally Posted by Masterer

Hey, he got what he wanted from the engineer he wanted it from [at a price that he was obviously comfortable paying].

Sounds like it all worked out.

Yes, I'm happy and so is the band.

Originally Posted by Masterer

Lindell, congrats. Glad you like what Vlado did for you.

Thanks

Originally Posted by djui5

Cool song Lindy, nice work buddy.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by djui5

The thread is meant to show off what Vlado did. This isn't a "Hey Lucey, can you master better than this guy for 1/10th the price?" thread.

I think those of you posting your own masters of this are doing so in the wrong. No one asked you to, and I'm sure Dellio didn't give anyone permission to, unless I missed that somewhere.

Unbelievable.

Yeah I agree.......and there where no 'permission' either

Originally Posted by soundroid

Exactly... sharing ideas and debating things.
Two factors clearly void from your original post lucey.

The factors I saw were
1). self promotion
2). undercutting a collegue

....not very "collegial" or cool in my book.

I agree

Originally Posted by Riccardo

I might well be wrong but I have a feeling Tobias posted the file without all the profound thoughts and thinking you all are having here. He just did it to share it with us.

Exactly

Originally Posted by UnderTow

The thing that amazes me is that people prefer having a product at this level of loudness despite the, to my ears, obvious clipping. I think Vlado's version with 3-4 dB less clipping/limiting would be great!

What you fail to realize is that this is a commercial rock band. The CD will be played together with Metallica, Slayer, Red Hot C, etc. So the levels has to be loud or the fans will complain.

Originally Posted by lucey

The money was first mentioned by Lindell, and proudly so. My post followed another poster who had further opened that door. In retrospect, had I not said that (optional) phrase would you be okay with alternate files?


#2 The assumption that someone happily posting a mix and master file should be followed only by a load of ass kissing praises is the fallacy here. If you want to gush with no debate then post in the Good News forum ... the mp3 forum is also available. Were this in Good News I'd have left it alone as it's not right to stop any gushing there, just like it's not right to stop any bitching in the Moan Zone.

It's only you that is 'debating' Lucey.....

Originally Posted by Brad Blackwood

Lucey, Not trying to bust your balls, but it appears that virtually everyone that listened and posted preferred Vlado's version, so you proved nothing. If everyone had liked yours more you would have a point, but in essence you're saying "look, I can make it almost as good for less money"...

yeah.....

Originally Posted by phild

Seeing how this is a "vlado rocks" topic maybe I can ask a few questions?
I haven't heard the posted tracks yet but I almost don't feel I have to as I am very familiar with Vlado's signature - loud, bright, aggressive, midrange-y, exciting, often distorted.

Some of his stuff that I like makes me wonder about it, a bit.

Do you have any idea what Vlado did to your track? Did he speak to you about the session once it was done?

Thank you

I have no idea what gear he used, if that's what you're wondering? I liked the result right away so there where no changes to the mastering. We stayed in touch by email.

Originally Posted by stealthbalance

great work lindell !! sounds great - and i dig what vlad did.

Thanks man!!!