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maxcherry · 16th January 2007

ive been applying your knowledge already on my music like keeping things mono sub500,and switching to mono and hearing no audiable difference.but my software(logic only allows eq down to 20 hertz but i suppose cutting that is better than not?? would you suggest a graphic over the master know any great one's also and ive checked out the butterworth you get the feeling that it sounds as good as it looks...anyway your info is adawned and applicated......

1)
cut off the infrasub below 15Hz.. tone arms resonate around 5-10Hz and the needle will jump when played back on turntables...

2)
check the phase alignment of everything below 500Hz .. should be very mono. how do you check? with a phase meter (keep it green) OR simply press MONO on your mixer / amp and listen if the bass is diminuished.. if so take out that cathedral reverb from the subsonics! ;-) .. kepp the stereo-wideners up of 500Hz!

3)
carefull with hihats around 8.4 KHz .. or "S"-tones in vocals... DE-ESS the shit out of it, really do... they will sound MUCH more aggressive on vinyl - you are going to regret it... the SHURE SM58 sounds like crap when recorded on vinyl.

for dance music I place a "safety" sharp butterworth 5 or 6 LO-PASS filter at around 18.5 or 19 KHz to avoid intermodulation of highs to lower frequencies (happens sometimes) ..

and the most important rule:

4)
keep it very, very slick and fat. weak mixes will sound terrible on vinyl.. good mixes will translate good even if the cutter is lazy or has a bad day.

5)
dont exagerate with loudness... that especially applies to vinyl. -12dB RMS is really hot enough.. the cutter should decide how hot he can print the whole plate...

6)
for 33 1/3 RPM (dance): keep the side under 15 mintes IN ANY CASE or it will sound like garbage. under 12 minutes will shine.

for 45 RPM (dance): keep the side under 9 minutes IN ANY CASE or it will sound worse then 33 1/3 (good 33 1/3 is superior to bad 45er cuts). for very loud an d crips records stay under 6 minutes for a 45er cut. these ones are my favourites..

7)
if you dont do much bass and you have a more "hifi-ish" recording try DMM (direct metal mastering) .. it sounds pretty close to heaven if done properly

just my few lazy answers...

I wish you phat tracks.

robert[/QUOTE]

16th January 2007	#47
maxcherry Gear Head Joined: Apr 2006	thanks m8 ive been applying your knowledge already on my music like keeping things mono sub500,and switching to mono and hearing no audiable difference.but my software(logic only allows eq down to 20 hertz but i suppose cutting that is better than not?? would you suggest a graphic over the master know any great one's also and ive checked out the butterworth you get the feeling that it sounds as good as it looks...anyway your info is adawned and applicated...... 1) cut off the infrasub below 15Hz.. tone arms resonate around 5-10Hz and the needle will jump when played back on turntables... 2) check the phase alignment of everything below 500Hz .. should be very mono. how do you check? with a phase meter (keep it green) OR simply press MONO on your mixer / amp and listen if the bass is diminuished.. if so take out that cathedral reverb from the subsonics! ;-) .. kepp the stereo-wideners up of 500Hz! 3) carefull with hihats around 8.4 KHz .. or "S"-tones in vocals... DE-ESS the shit out of it, really do... they will sound MUCH more aggressive on vinyl - you are going to regret it... the SHURE SM58 sounds like crap when recorded on vinyl. for dance music I place a "safety" sharp butterworth 5 or 6 LO-PASS filter at around 18.5 or 19 KHz to avoid intermodulation of highs to lower frequencies (happens sometimes) .. and the most important rule: 4) keep it very, very slick and fat. weak mixes will sound terrible on vinyl.. good mixes will translate good even if the cutter is lazy or has a bad day. 5) dont exagerate with loudness... that especially applies to vinyl. -12dB RMS is really hot enough.. the cutter should decide how hot he can print the whole plate... 6) for 33 1/3 RPM (dance): keep the side under 15 mintes IN ANY CASE or it will sound like garbage. under 12 minutes will shine. for 45 RPM (dance): keep the side under 9 minutes IN ANY CASE or it will sound worse then 33 1/3 (good 33 1/3 is superior to bad 45er cuts). for very loud an d crips records stay under 6 minutes for a 45er cut. these ones are my favourites.. 7) if you dont do much bass and you have a more "hifi-ish" recording try DMM (direct metal mastering) .. it sounds pretty close to heaven if done properly just my few lazy answers... I wish you phat tracks. robert[/QUOTE] __________________ soundsogood