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Originally Posted by not_so_new  Hey Roger
Not knocking your tests, they are pretty cool and very helpful. Just a little suggestion for next time.... I would not put the names on the files.
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Well, i was thinking about whether to put the names on it yes or no. First i thought "no" because of what people own and tend to like, but i did it anyway for the following reasons:
- if someone searches for such a shootout in a couple of monts or meybe next year, it is clear in the first post which is which so they don't have to search trough all posts.
- If i don't tell it in the first place, when should i tell it? after 3 replies, after 4 pages, and what if nobody listened? it would be a bit weird to me....
- After all this UA bashing i couldn't believe my ears when i first heard the unit in real life. I have to admit that before the test i 90% sure i would buy the pacifica. Now it is 50-50 pacifica-la610. I just wanted the listeners to know that despite all the bashing, this really is a very good sounding product!
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So Roger, after using each unit what do you like about the final contenders?
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As far as the mics go: i liked the jz2 and the 121 both, but the 121 was really way different than the NT i already have and smoked on guitars, so i decided to go with that one.
The pre's: I liked the avalon on vocals most, but on the rest it ended last (still very nice though except on dist guitars.)
I liked the pacifica most for DI and electric guitar, with the ua coming very close second, but on vocals and acoustic guitar i liked the 610 more than the pacifica (also very close though)! it's just so hard to decide!
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Originally Posted by cramseur I don't think this will help you but:
acnt - 610
ac121 - pac
voxnt - 610/737(but in the loud part the 737 did break up some)
distgtr121 - pac
DI - pac
most of the sources, the 610 and pac were clearly superior in terms of 3-d image, and air. The 610 tended to be brighter... |
Thanks for listening and your opinion!
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Originally Posted by MadGuitrst Are you sure you have the Vox clips correct?
It sounds like the Pacifica is last with the 610 as the the first two. Check it out and let me know.
Let us know about that vocal clip, okay?
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I have checked it out to be sure and i am now i am absolutely positive that everything is correct! All units were on different inputs so i went back to the project and i have to be confirmative that it is right. In my ears the third vocal clip does sound as avalon! The pacifica and the ua are very close but if you import the file into your daw and do a spectral view you'll see difference, So Yes there is way that everything is correct!
I changed the order on the vocal chain deliberately so not everything was the same and people would not expect to hear i.e. the second clip again as best.
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For these sample clips:
The UA sounds the best to me on everything.
I would have thought on AC with the 121 the Pacifica would have been better.
Although the 121 + UA on AC is a bit soft and rolled off, a touch of hi EQ would most likely do the trick. In all, it sounded bigger, wider, a with more depth (as is soundstage, not low freqs).
Overall, the UA sounds bigger and better (see above), the Pacifica a tad pinched and nasally, the 737 soft and a tad dull.
The NT sounds better on acoustic guitar than the Royer.
You should try the Royer on your voice - don't buy if for acoustic guitar.
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Thanks for your opinion!
I have tried the royer on voice and it was not as impressing as the NT or JZ2, but it took eq VERY well and i see very good use in it for backing vocals and so. I also liked the 121 with the NT together on an avcoustic guitars, both panned the other way. This was a little trick i learned from the royer website and it is sounds very nice!. But i think the 121 has most of the time it's home in front of a guitar cab!
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Originally Posted by dznyc ahh, that's interesting about the Gas Cooker.
The impression I get is that it really shines when you want to thicken or dirty up a signal a bit. Sounds like it worked that way for you too!
That's too bad it doesn't compete more in the headroom department.
thanks for the response and for posting the shootout! |
Anytime!